Iron Man Hits the Hulk Pretty Damn Hard in Age of Ultron

Based on one punch, how hard does Iron Man hit the Hulk?

I don't really know what is going on in this fight except that the Hulk and Iron Man and exchanging blows. In this scene from Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer, the Hulk has Iron Man (in his HulkBuster armor) pinned down---then WHAM. Iron Man lands a blow that sends the Hulk flying.

What kind of force would it take to punch the Hulk like Iron Man did? I will try to answer this question based on the evidence from the trailer.

The Mass of Hulk

I know you don't want to look at this first, but it's the best place to start. Before looking at the Hulk as he is thrown back from the punch, I need to know his mass. But how could I possibly get the mass of the Hulk? Let me make the following assumptions:

  • He has a similar density as a human being.
  • The Hulk is about 2.5 meters tall---based on how he looks next to Captain America.
  • The Hulk is a bit bulkier than a normal human.

Since I assume the Hulk has the same density as a human, I can use a comparison of volumes (with a human) to find the mass. Suppose that we represent both a human and the Hulk as a cylindrical shaped object.

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Since the Hulk isn't just a tall human, I have to take into account his "bulk". The volume of the Hulk cylinder is larger both because of the size and because of this "shape" ratio that I call a2. Let me skip right to the fun part. If the Hulk is 2.5 meters tall with a shape coefficient of 1.25 (just a guess), then he would have a mass of about 290 kg.

Oh? You want all the details? Well, it just so happens that I estimated the mass of the Hulk in my book Geek Physics: Surprising Answers to the Planet's Most Interesting Questions in which I use the mass of the Hulk to estimate what would happen to the road surface when he jumps. One warning: you might get tired of me mentioning my book. However, you must also know that every time I mention the book a geek solves a physics equation.

How Far and How Fast?

Next, let's look at the video clip to estimate how far the Hulk went after being hit by Iron Man with the Hulkbuster armor. If I can determine how far the Hulk flew back, I can also estimate his speed after getting walloped by Hulkbuster. At first glance, it seems like he is moves back about one city block (or maybe more). Of course, I would like a better estimate.

After poking around on the Internet, it seems clear that this fight takes place in Johannesburg, South Africa. Better than that, I have found the location of Iron Man when he punched the Hulk. Here it is.

Screen shot from Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer along with images from Google Maps.

Boom. Right there in front of City Hall just to the left of one of those palm trees. Ok, that seems like the location of Iron Man when he hit the Hulk. But where did the Hulk go? From this shot, it appears he went North and away from City Hall.

Screen shot from Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer along with images from Google Maps.

It would seem that the Hulk would land somewhere past that tall building. If you try to find the landing location on Google Maps, you will actually find that it is right about where he started but looking in the opposite direction. If I assume that Hulk goes just past that tall building, his travel distance would be somewhere around 110 meters.

But what about his launch speed? I could use the travel distance and the flight time to get an estimate of the speed but there is one small problem. I don't actually know the time. The clip shows the Hulk flying away from Iron Man and then cuts to another scene where he lands. I'm not sure these two scenes don't overlap. But don't worry. If I estimate the launch angle (I'm going to guess 20°), I can use basic ideas in projectile motion. Let me write the following equation for the horizontal distance traveled.

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Yes, you might call this the "range equation"---but be careful. This equation can be quite dangerous. Your best bet is to really understand the basics of projectile motion (which you can do in my intro level ebook, Just Enough Physics (Amazon Kindle)). Oh, double geek-bonus points. I was able to mention two of my books in one blog post.

Going back to the Hulk, if I use an angle of 20° and a horizontal distance of 110 meters I get a launch velocity of 40.95 m/s (91 mph).

Punching Force

I have an estimate for Hulk's mass. I have an estimate for the Hulk's speed just after the punch. But what about the punch itself?

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Since I know both the Hulk's mass and final (final as in after the punch) velocity, I also know his change in momentum. This means that I can use the Momentum Principle which says:

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Technically, there are two forces acting on the Hulk during the punch. There is the force from the punch and then there is the gravitational force. I think it will be ok to just ignore the gravitational force for now (you can go back and add it in as a homework assignment). This means that I just need the time interval that the force is applied to Hulk. It's difficult to determine exactly when Hulkbuster's fist made contact and then left contact with the Hulk, but it looks like 3 frames is a good estimate. This would put the contact time at 0.067 seconds (3 frames is clearly longer than the actual contact time).

Now we can calculate the force of the punch. Since the force is in the same direction as the change in momentum, I can deal with these quantities as scalars instead of vectors (just a note for my physics friends).

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With a slightly shorter time interval or a slightly higher launch speed, this force could be close to 20,000 Newtons (4500 lbs). That's a large force, but remember that this is the Hulkbuster armor. Of course there are still some questions left for your homework.

  • If Iron Man pushes on the Hulk with this punch, then the Hulk pushes back on Iron Man with the same force (because forces are an interaction between two objects). Would this force then do the same thing to Hulkbuster? Why not?
  • Estimate the speed of the Hulkbuster's fist as it moves to punch the Hulk (you might have to count the frames that the fist moves). What is the energy needed to get the first moving? How much power would this take?
  • Go back over the force calculation that I have shown. Use the estimated values to give the largest possible force from the punch. Now get the smallest possible force from the punch.

Ok. That's enough homework to at least keep you busy until Avengers: Age of Ultron comes out in theaters (in the USA at least).